Trump’s comments about Epstein ask new questions about when and why they fell

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Trump's comments about Epstein ask new questions about when and why they fell

President Donald Trump spoke this week about his relationship with the accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, but his accounts raise new questions about when the two fell exactly and why.

Trump said on Monday that his relationship with Epstein, who died for suicide in 2019, while waiting for a trial for traffic charges of girls and women, sour because Epstein hunted some employees after he explicitly warned him not to do so.

Trump continued to say that Epstein “stole” the young women who worked at the Spa at their Mar-A-Lago Club in Florida. “People were taken from the spa, hired by him. In other words, he left,” Trump told reporters in Air Force One.

One of those workers, Trump said, was Virginia Giuffre, an Epstein accuser who said she was recruited by her associate, Ghislaine Maxwell, when Giuffre was a minor teenager who worked as an assistant to the costume in Mar-a-lago denied allegations. Giuffre died for suicide last April at age 41.

“I don’t know. I think she worked at the spa, I think so, I think that was one of the people,” Trump said for the first time when asked about Giuffre before saying more definitely: “Yes, he stole it. And by the way, she had no complaints about us, none is nothing.”

Donald Trump talks to journalists near the Rosas garden after returning to the White House in Marine One on July 29, 2025 in Washington, DC.

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According to the Social Security records submitted to the Court during the case of defamation of Giuffre against Ghislaine Maxwell, Giuffre was used in Mar-A-Lago Club LLC in 2000 and won $ 1,866.50 during that calendar year. The duration and precise dates of their employment at Trump’s Club remained in dispute when the demand was resolved in 2017.

Giuffre, then known as Virginia Roberts, later went to travel widely throughout the world with Epstein and Maxwell in the next two years, according to flight records maintained by one of Epstein’s pilots who have entered into judicial records in civil and criminal cases.

Trump’s comments occurred after the White House last week said Epstein was expelled from Mar-A-Lago for being an “disgusting.”

When asked about the discrepancy between the reasoning of the White House for separation with Epstein and his that was about Epstein stealing his employees, Trump said Tuesday “is a bit of the same.”

While telling journalists that Epstein shitted the young staff, Trump said: “People would come and complain:” This guy is taking people from the spa. “I didn’t know.”

“And then, when I heard about that, I said, I said: ‘Listen, we don’t want you to take our people, whether spa or not spa.’ I don’t want people to take.

Donald Trump walks on the southern grass of the White House after returning to Marine One on July 29, 2025 in Washington, DC.

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But Trump’s previous comments suggested that his fall with Epstein occurred several years later.

In 2002, Trump praised Epstein in a New York magazine profile of the now deceased financial and sentenced sexual offender.

“I have known Jeff for fifteen years. Firecrific Guy,” Trump told the magazine. “It’s a lot of fun to be with him. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as me, and many of them are on the youngest side. Without a doubt, Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

Then, in 2004, the two men were rivals on a property in Florida as Reported by the Washington Post. Trump finally won the property at an auction.

In 2019, when Epstein was arrested for federal positions, Trump said he had not spoken with Epstein in 15 years.

“I knew him as everyone in Palm Beach knew him. I mean, people in Palm Beach knew him. It was an accessory in Palm Beach,” Trump said in the Oval office. “I had a fall with him a long time ago. I don’t think I talked to him for 15 years. He was not a fan.

When asked at the time for the reason behind his fall and why Epstein was expelled from Mar-a-Lago, Trump replied: “The reason makes no difference, frankly.”

ABC News communicated with the White House to comment on Trump’s explanations about its consequences with Epstein.

James Hill from ABC News contributed to this report.

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